Evidence of Modern Pterosaurs or Ropens

I just saw a question posted to a discussion group on Facebook: Living Pterosaurs of the World. I believe the person posing the question is honestly trying to get an answer. Here is the question:

Why don’t we find any carcasses of these animals in nature when they die?

I know a simple answer that may help this particular person to keep an open mind about the eyewitness sighting reports. Most of the earth’s land surface is wilderness and much of the rest of it is semi-wilderness. When an animal dies, it begins to decay, usually soon looking little like its appearance during life. The vast majority of large wild animals in wilderness areas die and decay away before any person discovers the carcass. Ropens, and other modern pterosaurs, live in fewer numbers than many other creatures, leaving far fewer carcasses than common birds and mammals and reptiles. But we have much more going on here.

Who is meant by “we?” If it means only those who are actively participating in the Facebook group Living Pterosaurs of the World, then it should be no surprise that not one of us have seen a carcass of a modern pterosaur. But if “we” means all humans now living on the face of the earth, we have another question that comes up: “Why assume that nobody has found a carcass of a ropen?”

A Ropen Living in a Cage?

I have received countless reports, over the past twelve years, of encounters with apparent pterosaurs, many reports coming from the eyewitnesses themselves. In one account (not first hand) some natives in Papua New Guinea had captured a creature that was thought to be a ropen. That animal was kept for some time, in a cage, for it would have been dangerous for the local natives if it had been released. Yet I have never seen any mention of that in a newspaper.

For a Western newspaper, how unlikely that any reporter would try to get an article published about a pterosaur being held alive in a cage in a remote village in Papua New Guinea! I know from experience that any American traveling to that remote part of the world, to search for living pterosaurs, is immediately subject to ridicule in the United States. If that kind of story is never told in an American newspaper, how much more unlikely that a modern-pterosaur-carcass discovery, in a remote area, would be taken seriously by an American reporter! Any skeptic would be able to dismiss the carcass as a known animal that had decayed in a way that reminded somebody of a pterodactyl.

Western Blindness

Many persons in Western societies, including in the United States, are blind to ideas that run contrary to deeply-entrenched assumptions. Many have little or no belief in Bigfoot or other reported cryptids, so what about creatures that were supposed to be all dead, totally extinct by millions of years ago, even close to a hundred million years ago, for some Rhamphorhynchoid pterosaurs? If many Americans have never heard about sighting reports of apparent living pterosaurs, how could they be expected to believe that a partially decayed carcass was from a recently-living “pterodactyl?”

Huge Featherless Flying Creatures

We need to let the public know about the many sightings of large apparent pterosaurs that fly overhead in many areas of the world. When enough people become aware of the sightings, we’ll be closer to the point where a recently-deceased ropen can be examined with an open mind. That would be better than just ridiculing a person for coming forward with a carcass of such an animal.

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1965 "Gitmo Pterosaur" or "pterodactyl" or "dinosaur" seen by two children in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba

Ropen observed by the artist, Patty, Carson, of Southern California

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The Ropen and Evolution

A common criticism thrown at me and my associates relates to the age of the earth and evolution. . . . they construct a sentence or two, in their own words, as if it were our words or our precise purposes.

Doubting Personal Sanity

Have you seen a live pterodactyl flying overhead (I know that sounds crazy)? My first advice is this: Don’t doubt your sanity; my second: Don’t take it upon yourself to convert the Western world to your discovery of non-extinct pterosaurs.

Ropen Creature on Destination Truth

This “Ropen” episode of Destination Truth is far better than the “Flying Monsters” episode of Monsterquest, although the flying creatures involved are at least mostly the same.

Ropen and Chupacabra

“Pterodactyl-type bird” in Papua New Guinea and possible chupacabra in Chile

New Guinea Ropens

. . . they were  amazed as a large creature flew up into  the air.

Ropen-Pterosaur Research

I have admired Jonathan Whitcomb’s Ropen / Pterosaur research for many years. I have posted a few of Jonathan’s offerings from recent years, which includes an article he wrote for Phantoms & Monsters . . .

Eyewitnesses of the Ropen of Umboi

Three men describe the pterodactyl-like creature of Umboi Island, Papua New Guinea. They saw the giant ropen (about 1994) flying over Lake Pung.

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Carbon-14 Shows Dinosaurs Lived Recently

Surprising Results From Radiometric Dating of Dinosaurs

One of the oral presentations in the 2012 Western Pacific Geophysics Meeting in Singapore surprised at least some of the members of the audience. Dinosaur bones from several different locations had been carbon-dated, and it appears those animals lived only tens of thousands of years ago, not many millions of years ago.

In fact, it was so surprising that several undisclosed persons talked with two chairmen after the conference. The result? Without warning, the abstract of that presentation was removed from the official conference web site. The reason given for the deletion? “There is obviously an error in these data.” So why did those two chairmen not even mention what the error might have been? The obvious reason appears to be this: They had no knowledge of any particular problem with the research and presentation, BUT the results contradicted generations of popular teachings about when dinosaurs lived on this planet.

Stegosaurus dinosaur

Censorship in Science

Of course nobody would have approved if those two chairmen had arranged for the government to put the members of the Paleochronology group under house arrest, keeping them under confinement for the remainder of their lives. The house arrest of Galileo was centuries ago, when educated authorities acted primitively in suppressing new discoveries.

So why is this discovery not heralded in Western newspapers worldwide? After all, the censorship was only in that one conference, in 2012, in Singapore, right? Wrong. These scientists have been blocked from giving presentations elsewhere, including the 2009 North American Paleontological Convention, and the American Geophysical Union in both 2011 and 2012. In addition, the Geological Society of America kept them out in both 2011 and 2012, and editors of various scientific journals have refused to publish their findings.

Keep in mind, these are only test results, not philosophical or religious interpretation of the carbon-14 testing. It is obviously censorship to keep this discovery from becoming better known. What could be more embarrassing to many professors and many respected scientists than a discovery that could set them up for ridicule for being 1,000 times wrong in the ages when dinosaurs lived?

Fortunately this discovery of recent carbon-14-dated ages of dinosaurs coincided with discoveries of soft tissues in dinosaur bones, strengthening the case that these wonderful creatures have lived much more recently than Western traditions had proclaimed.

No wonder some of our ancestors reported large dragons as if they were real animals.

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Dinosaur Fossils are Carbon Dated

Researchers have found a reason for the puzzling survival of soft tissue and collagen in dinosaur bones – the bones are younger than anyone ever guessed.  Carbon-14 (C-14) dating of multiple samples of bone from 8 dinosaurs found in Texas, Alaska, Colorado, and Montana revealed that they are only 22,000 to 39,000 years old.

Carbon-14 Dating Versus Evolution

Both evolutionists and creationists stand in agreement that radiocarbon dating, which can be used only to date organic samples, is totally ineffective in measuring the alleged millions or billions of years of the evolutionary timetable. [yet dinosaurs are shown to be only thousands of years old when carbon-14 tested.]

Carbon-14 Dating of Dinosaur Fossils

I am not ridiculing the intelligence of Mr. Farrell. But if I understand what he was trying to portray in his article from which the above words were taken, I would advice him to avoid ridiculing the intelligence of a group of people with whom he disagrees in philosophy. After all, Mr. Farrell was wrong, in one sentence, by a factor of about 1,000 times.

Dinosaur Fossils and Radiometric Dating

Dinosaurs and pterosaurs, we have long been taught, became extinct many millions of years ago . . . or did they? The discovery that bones from an Acrocanthosaurus and a Triceratops, not to mention several other types, were alive and part of living dinosaurs only tens of thousands of years ago—that astonishing discovery was met with immediate . . . censorship.

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UFO’s in Massachusetts or Hoax?

A video of a complicated UFO sighting is reported to have come from people who were on a roof in Massachusetts, on January 13, 2015. Note the date and place, a very cold place to be at night on that date. What I found suspicious was the unique camera-point-of-view necessary to record this kind of formation. The video camera would have to be at a location at precisely the right angle to record the sizes of the objects as apparently identical and the formation to be so precisely as it appears. It greatly resembles a hoax.

Here is the text report that I found online, for this apparent video:

“Watching a UFO from my roof. The UFOs went into formation before disappearing. Me and my neighbors watched this from my roof in western Massachusetts on January 13, 2015.” [Very few details were given, other than those.]

What was this person doing with friends on a roof when the temperature was probably well below freezing? If they had seen a UFO out their window, why did they not videotape it through the window? It looks like a night scene of a city, so why did this person not mention the name of the city? These things raise suspicion.

Debunking this UFO video

Consider what some experts are reported to have said about this apparent UFO video:

We hear voices of several people, but if you listen carefully, they don’t always seem to react to what we’re seeing on the screen . . . [in other words, the audio does not seem to relate to what is seen]

If this is a video of [a real event], it’s also a bit odd that the videographer himself doesn’t seem excited in the least at what he supposedly is capturing on tape.

. . . you would expect some variation in the lighting because that is the reality of capturing video through any air mass at all. You always see lights that will scintillate, especially the farther away they are. [This is absent in this purported video.]

The video was most likely created on computer software and then filmed off the computer or a TV monitor . . .

In addition, why does the audio include a woman saying, “It’s orange! It’s orange!” when none of the lights was anything other than white? That may be the final clue. It just looks far too much like a hoax to be taken seriously.

hoax video of apparent UFO formation in Massachusetts

Notice the precision with which these apparent orbs line up. This can only be apparent if the camera was placed in the exact lineup to make it appear in this way, assuming this is a genuine video of an actual event in the sky (which it is not, according to other evidences).

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Paul Nation’s video of indava lights in Papua New Guinea

Late in 2006, I interviewed Paul Nation in his home in Granbury, Texas, just days after he had returned from Papua New Guinea. I videotaped the interview and made a digital copy of the video footage of the two indava lights. A copy was later given to the physicist Cliff Paiva, who analyzed the lights and found them to be anything but ordinary: not from airplanes, meteors, car headlights, lanterns, or campfires. And a hoax it was not.

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Credibility of Modern Pterosaurs

How can intelligent people believe that pterosaurs, those “primitive” flying creatures called pterodactyls, might still be flying over our heads? How can anyone believe in something so incredible? A terse rejecting of all the possibilities of a modern species of “flying dinosaur,” however, is answered thus: How do you explain all the eyewitness testimonies?

Cryptozoology and Science

The following is taken from the short nonfiction e-book Live Pterosaurs in Australia and in Papua New Guinea, by me, Jonathan D. Whitcomb.

Common persons in the southwest Pacific have seen something big flying overhead, something uncommon, unlike any bird or bat.

My American associates and I have explored remote jungles in Papua New Guinea, searching for living pterosaurs and interviewing native eyewitnesses. Most expeditions were led by one or two Americans, with one or two native interpreters. Did we fail or succeed? It depends on who interprets our investigations: skeptics who point out the lack of an official scientific discovery or open-minded cryptozoologists who recognize progress and hope it will continue.

Cryptozoology is not a branch of science, at least not in the usual sense; but it can motivate zoologists to conduct field investigations, at least in theory it can motivate them. It is the “study of hidden animals,” and usually relies less on direct scientific examination and more on eyewitness testimony; nevertheless, we can use scientific reasoning and methods within the boundaries of cryptozoology.

The American missionary Thomas Savage, in the 1800’s in Africa, obtained some bones of what we now call a “Western Gorilla,” which prepared for its eventual scientific acknowledgement. Whatever led that missionary to obtain those bones can be called “cryptozoological,” especially if he had been following eyewitness accounts.

The following is taken from the introduction in my larger book, Searching for Ropens and Finding God (fourth edition):

Although I encountered no dragon during my brief stay on Umboi Island in 2004, eyewitnesses I did encounter, objective witnesses of the reality of the ropen, with no superstitious native traditions tainting testimonies, almost without exception. Islanders of Umboi see the ropen and report what they saw; why should they doubt their own senses? And why should we doubt natives? Human experience lives at the foundation of all human societies and at the foundation of science; why single out experiences of those of another society as unreliable? Defending traditions of our own culture may be the worst excuse for rejecting experiences of natives who have long been labeled “primitive.”

To elaborate on the foundation of science being human experience, what do most Americans and other Westerners mean by “scientific?” Some non-scientists use that word as if it referred to some huge collection of statements of fact. Some of them use scientific to dismiss any and all eyewitness accounts of anything that may suggest an extant pterosaur. In reality, Western science was born with eyes that could see and a mind that could reason on what it perceived. Galileo and other early European scientists worked on understanding what they experienced, including what they saw with their eyes. Imagination is important, but the greatest scientists accepted human experience as the great validator of what they imagined.

Dr. Donald Prothero the Paleontologist

A few weeks ago, an American paleontologist, Donald Prothero, wrote a blog post, “Fake Pterosaurs and Sock Puppets,” in which the word fossil was absent. Please note, paleontologists are experts in fossils; it’s hard to find a dictionary definition of paleontology without noticing the word fossil. That was a strange omission.

“Fake Pterosaurs and Sock Puppets” was that professor’s opinion about my integrity, in particular my honesty, for he used the word deception regarding my online publications. That smells of bulverism, if not outright libel. I suggest that the bad motivations on my part were only in his imagination and in what was imagined by a few previous writers that had influenced him.

Outside the comments at the bottom of Prothero’s post, the word eyewitness is absent. That was a strange omission, for I am a cryptozoologist, an investigator who specializes in eyewitness testimonies. Why did he neglect getting into any details about his specialty and about my specialty?

Dr. Prothero may be a highly acclaimed paleontologist in the United States, or perhaps around the world, in his areas of expertise with fossils. But he seems to have completely failed to research what was outside his area of education and scientific credentials: the narrow branch of cryptozoology involving reports of apparent living pterosaurs.

Credibility of Eyewitness Testimony

The statistics from 128 of the more-credible reports, compiled at the end of 2012, prove that no significant number of hoaxes could have been involved. Prothero says nothing about that in his post about me. He does not even hint that any analysis was ever done on any eyewitness reports.

Detailed study shows certain critical descriptions in reports from around the world, reports that I have received over the past eleven years from four continents. Prothero gives not even a hint that I have ever received any reports directly from eyewitnesses. He was concentrating on making it appear like the subject of modern pterosaurs is not worth thinking about because it is all “fake,” and practically all of the publications are from me, and I am not to be trusted because I acted improperly in the use of “sock puppets.”

I suggest that the truth is better known and understood by following the evidence, not by following dead-end trails of bulverism.

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American paleontologist “attacks” living pterosaurs

Readers of a recent post by Dr. Donald Prothero may think that I, Jonathan Whitcomb, have single-handedly deceived ignorant people into believing that pterosaurs are still alive. The paleontologist seems upset that my web pages dominate Google searches.

Clear Thinking and Donald Prothero

. . . using the word deception three times regarding me, Jonathan Whitcomb. . . . C. S. Lewis gave us “bulverism,” lamenting the decline of human reasoning. He defined the word in the mid-twentieth century: “The modern method is to assume without discussion that he [someone whose opinion you dislike] is wrong and then distract his attention from this (the only real issue) by busily explaining how he became so silly.” How much better to talk about the subject at hand!

Review of a pterosaur book

So here I am, a very convinced “Evolutionist” who has written a great deal on Darwin, Chambers, Russel Wallace etc reading a  book on Live Pterosaur sightings by an out loud and proud Creationist.  And you know what? It really makes no difference to the case. So Whitcomb believes in living pterosaurs? The sceptics who attack his research are equally convinced they are extinct. It’s an issue it is rather hard to maintain a strict impartiality on.

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Another book on living pterosaurs:

The quest for discovering modern pterosaurs

Fourth Edition of what could be called “The Bible of Modern Pterosaurs,” by Jonathan David Whitcomb, but the actual title is Searching for Ropens and Finding God

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